tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post8707677136794430298..comments2024-03-16T13:30:40.704-04:00Comments on Tea at Trianon: Our Meeting with Archduke Imreelena maria vidalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17129629173535139807noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-91636251383148446882010-12-03T14:49:10.393-05:002010-12-03T14:49:10.393-05:00I found this thread after doing a search for Archd...I found this thread after doing a search for Archduke Imre. What an honor it was to meet him! I met him at a Traditional Latin Mass that was held in Washington, DC on the feast day of his blessed ancestor, Emperor Karl.<br /><br />Xavier said: "Is the TFP the Tradition, Family and Property group from Brazil? If it is, please be careful because the Vatican has condemned the founder's cult of personality and some suspect theological pronuncements."<br /><br />From what I know, the American TFP was inspired by the Brazilian TFP and works closely with them. I don't know of any Vatican condemnation though. In fact, the former Vatican librarian, Cardinal Stickler of blessed memory, wrote the forward to a bio of their founder, Plinio Correa de Oliveira, and dispelled any "cult" fears regarding him.<br /><br /><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=rJW5p1vDs4UC&lpg=PP1&ots=zBzJAVu7tk&dq=crusader%20of%20the%2020th%20century&pg=PR9#v=onepage&q&f=false" rel="nofollow">The crusader of the 20th century: Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira</a><br /><br />"All founders and others who have stood out in the history of the Church have had to suffer calumny and misunderstanding. It should come as no surprise, then, that Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira was, and will continue to be, the target of a campaign of denigration, skillfully orchestrated by those who oppose his ideal of re-Christianizing society. In our century, such defamatory campaigns have also attacked other Catholic associations, demonizing them as 'sects.' It is interesting to note that these campaigns are much more aggressive when they are directed against associations that express a greater fidelity to the Catholic Church. This reveals that the true object of these accusations and falsehoods is the Church and that they are made to deny the Church's role as the 'teacher of truth,' recently affirmed by the Holy Father John Paul II in Veritatis Splendor. It is disturbing that these campaigns of denigration promoted by the enemies of the Church are often aided by Catholics who pretend to be orthodox."<br /><br />"I hope that this biography of Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira can help to dissipate the criticism and misunderstanding and create an ideal point of reference for all those who generously wish to dedicate their energies to the service of the Church and Christian civilization."Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10940179950824545771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-31894116551479207162010-11-04T22:53:42.089-04:002010-11-04T22:53:42.089-04:00Thank you!Thank you!elena maria vidalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17129629173535139807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-70793651511974773502010-11-04T22:50:29.757-04:002010-11-04T22:50:29.757-04:00CatholicCulture.org researches Catholic websites t...CatholicCulture.org researches Catholic websites then posts a review and ratings; they seem to be very fair and level-headed. They give TFP.org a 'green light' for fidelity. I don't think they are affiliated in any way. Hope this helps!<br /><br />http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/reviews/view.cfm?recnum=1999&repos=2&subrepos=0&searchid=676887Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-3579985247629836532010-11-04T12:01:47.020-04:002010-11-04T12:01:47.020-04:00What a great experience you had, Elena! Sounds inc...What a great experience you had, Elena! Sounds incredible. And he resembles Marie Antoinette, especially his eyes.<br /><br />:)Anabelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00039200910518866389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-75040591246877404712010-11-04T12:00:46.735-04:002010-11-04T12:00:46.735-04:00Thank you, Christina, yes, indeed!Thank you, Christina, yes, indeed!elena maria vidalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17129629173535139807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-43995989262312378292010-11-04T11:59:52.363-04:002010-11-04T11:59:52.363-04:00Xavier, thank you. My commitment is to Carmel and ...Xavier, thank you. My commitment is to Carmel and I am not going to be joining the TFP since I already have enough on my plate. However, you make a very strong statement and if you have some links to back it up, please do post them.<br /><br />Thank you, Richard. I have heard that HIH Archduke Imre is enjoying my books. Praise God.elena maria vidalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17129629173535139807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-8484472071941495762010-11-04T11:56:53.281-04:002010-11-04T11:56:53.281-04:00How wonderful that you were able to meet the Archd...How wonderful that you were able to meet the Archduke! He seems to possess a true sense of <i>noblesse oblige.</i>Christinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05279960474896005256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-92155255725554018242010-11-04T11:18:12.563-04:002010-11-04T11:18:12.563-04:00How great!How great!Brantignyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01609397972340635441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-3853087967974127042010-11-04T10:56:16.686-04:002010-11-04T10:56:16.686-04:00Maria Elena:
Is the TFP the Tradition, Family and ...Maria Elena:<br />Is the TFP the Tradition, Family and Property group from Brazil? If it is, please be careful because the Vatican has condemned the founder's cult of personality and some suspect theological pronuncements.<br /><br />In any case, glad you had a great time with the Archduke<br /><br />xavierxavierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15924047562026242210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-43299873205630530542010-11-03T19:26:47.680-04:002010-11-03T19:26:47.680-04:00Thank you, Gette. HIH received the copies of my bo...Thank you, Gette. HIH received the copies of my books with such graciousness. We discussed the Vigee-Lebrun painting of Marie-Antoinette and the painting of Madame Royale on the covers as well as the Walters Art gallery in Baltimore where many royal artifacts can be found.elena maria vidalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17129629173535139807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-2492746436769063702010-11-03T19:12:05.582-04:002010-11-03T19:12:05.582-04:00What a wonderful experience, wow! Thanks so much ...What a wonderful experience, wow! Thanks so much for sharing it with us. PRince Imre does indeed resemble Marie Antoinette-- he has her exact jawline! What a gift! I hope you shared your email address with him, so that he can, hopefully, send his review of Trianon! Wouldn't that be just too cool to have a foreword from him?<br /><br />A lovely family photo, as well! You look beautiful! <br /><br />Love,<br />GetteAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-9326137059245079752010-11-03T19:07:00.079-04:002010-11-03T19:07:00.079-04:00Oh, yes, I love the Hofburg, especially the garden...Oh, yes, I love the Hofburg, especially the gardens!elena maria vidalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17129629173535139807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-28850199319240862272010-11-03T18:48:13.328-04:002010-11-03T18:48:13.328-04:00Yeah, that's the impression I get from their w...Yeah, that's the impression I get from their website. Maybe they've distanced / updated themselves somewhat from some of the actual views of the founder, who did admittedly come from a different cultural background (Brazil).<br /><br />The way you describe it, that sounds great!<br /><br />By the way, have you ever had the chance to visit the Hofburg in Vienna?Mercuryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15864822194727243615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-18895697731794549832010-11-03T18:39:42.446-04:002010-11-03T18:39:42.446-04:00Thank you, Matterhorn!
Mercury, I am really not t...Thank you, Matterhorn!<br /><br />Mercury, I am really not the person to ask since I am not a member of the TFP; I would write directly to them to find out. I am sure they would love to discuss the goals of their organization. My impression is that they are focused on rallying lay people to rebuild Catholic culture by challenging the zeitgeist of the world with beauty and truth. I think that they emphasize the role of traditional nobility in that it was the place of those with wealth and influence to use their power for good; for protecting and helping the poor, cultivating the arts and education,and defending the Faith. For Americans who do not have a tradition of a hereditary nobility, the emphasis seems to be on building strong family values by training young people to use courtesy as a means of conveying Christian charity. That was my impression after one afternoon there.elena maria vidalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17129629173535139807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-11931551182242740742010-11-03T18:08:36.962-04:002010-11-03T18:08:36.962-04:00And it's really amazing by the way how his fac...And it's really amazing by the way how his facial features really do resemble Marie Antionette's in the painting!Mercuryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15864822194727243615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-82397947743593995572010-11-03T16:51:38.177-04:002010-11-03T16:51:38.177-04:00Actually, I have a question ... does TFP still sup...Actually, I have a question ... does TFP still support elitism as an actual goal? I find Pineira (name?)'s stuff a bit creepy in places.<br /><br />I mean, I understand that nobility and royalty can have its proper place, but in the past it took a very special person to be worthy of such a title (which is why I said I liked many of the Habsburgs). I also think Europe could make better use of constitutional monarchy.<br /><br />But for countries like the US, who have no native aristocracy, it just seems like bad idea.Mercuryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15864822194727243615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-16301868638373444712010-11-03T15:47:58.072-04:002010-11-03T15:47:58.072-04:00Gotta love the Habsburgs. I always found their sta...Gotta love the Habsburgs. I always found their status in Austria rather tragic. If there ever was a royal dynasty worth anything, it was the Habsburgs - so many of them truly were Catholic monarchs.<br /><br />I'm not such a big fan of the Bourbons. Living in Southern Germany and experiencing history there really made me hate Louis XIV (at least by destoying every town in Baden and the Palatinate he unwittingly set the stage for a huuuge amount of Baroque architecture to pop up), and I just can't bring myself to admire many of the others.<br /><br />But like I said, gotta love the Habsburgs, and Marie Antoinette certainly had that going for her. I also like how John Zmirak has a beagle named Franz Joseph.Mercuryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15864822194727243615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-5316974276764631602010-11-03T11:25:42.881-04:002010-11-03T11:25:42.881-04:00How lovely and providential! I am very happy for y...How lovely and providential! I am very happy for you!Mayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18230268418171628594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-82801331452276748272010-11-03T10:41:15.139-04:002010-11-03T10:41:15.139-04:00Thank you, A! I almost did not bring her because s...Thank you, A! I almost did not bring her because she is quite rambunctious but am SO glad I did.elena maria vidalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17129629173535139807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-37405766579064786592010-11-03T10:29:41.528-04:002010-11-03T10:29:41.528-04:00Indeed and experience of a lifetime!
How wonderfu...Indeed and experience of a lifetime!<br /><br />How wonderful that your daughter could be with you!<br /><br />I really enjoyed all the links and pictures. You do a lovely job of commending your gracious hosts.Allisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05423794317423373245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-62298705369780146392010-11-03T09:30:15.374-04:002010-11-03T09:30:15.374-04:00Thank you, E., for making so many connections! Yes...Thank you, E., for making so many connections! Yes, you are so right! Meeting the Archduke was like a journey outside of time, where the past, present and future are there all at once!elena maria vidalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17129629173535139807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-66638064196440060982010-11-03T09:28:39.395-04:002010-11-03T09:28:39.395-04:00Thank you, everyone! I think that His Imperial Hig...Thank you, everyone! I think that His Imperial Highness resembles Marie-Antoinette and his younger sister the Archduchess Gabriela look very much like the Queen as well.<br /><br />Thank you, Susan. Yes, my daughter is wearing the tartan of my family, the MacLachlan clan.elena maria vidalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17129629173535139807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-30318456962030017422010-11-03T08:13:28.729-04:002010-11-03T08:13:28.729-04:00Sounds like a wonderful experience. I adore the st...Sounds like a wonderful experience. I adore the story of Blessed Emperor Karl and his wife, Zita. Beautiful picture, Elena! I love your plaid dress and it looks like your daughter is wearing a matching sash...is that your family plaid?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-81043817457467128642010-11-03T07:47:06.822-04:002010-11-03T07:47:06.822-04:00Such an inspiring experience! One can imagine the ...Such an inspiring experience! One can imagine the awe in times past upon getting a glimpse of His or Her Majesty.Julygirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08113475639726723076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-84505849583893334832010-11-03T07:27:13.144-04:002010-11-03T07:27:13.144-04:00A fascinating experience, thank you for sharing th...A fascinating experience, thank you for sharing that with us.Jacqueline T. Lynchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11047941886908178350noreply@blogger.com