tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post2956697796367414249..comments2024-03-26T12:19:52.801-04:00Comments on Tea at Trianon: English Recusantselena maria vidalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17129629173535139807noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-11097964679171709332009-11-21T13:56:22.714-05:002009-11-21T13:56:22.714-05:00Thank you, Ms. Christine...and thanks too for your...Thank you, Ms. Christine...and thanks too for your blog, which I always find interesting.tubbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07272003035464034763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-73124478194286371762009-11-21T13:26:09.177-05:002009-11-21T13:26:09.177-05:00Mr. Tubbs,
In answer to your question about the Ag...Mr. Tubbs,<br />In answer to your question about the Agnus Dei, from my website:<br /><br />"Shown above is the Agnus Dei carried by St. Edmund Campion on his clandestine missions, and a gift of Pope Gregory VIII. Campion was found hiding in Lynford Grange, Berkshire on July 17, 1581, and was hanged, drawn, and quartered five months later. The Agnus Dei was found wrapped in a list of indulgences stuffed in the rafters of Lynford Grange when the roof underwent renovation in 1959."Christinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05205862627682998184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-25984131208046527482009-11-21T09:15:41.498-05:002009-11-21T09:15:41.498-05:00Tubbs, it sounds like you had better come with us!...Tubbs, it sounds like you had better come with us!elena maria vidalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17129629173535139807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-52283716961864475372009-11-20T21:55:03.944-05:002009-11-20T21:55:03.944-05:00the Agnus Dei pictured - what is its provenance? ...the Agnus Dei pictured - what is its provenance? (my guess is either Tyburn Convent or Arundel Castle)<br /><br />Many decades ago, (when Moby Dick was still a minnow) this sailor was granted an extended liberty after his carrier, CV-11, docked at Portsmouth/UK. I was fortunate in that my Division Officer found my interest in recusant history interesting enough. I used the time to do some research of my own. I found the home of the Jernyngham family in Costessey (Norfolk). I cannot express the thoughts and emotions I felt as I stood among the ruins of this ancient Tudor mansion. To refer to Tintern Abbey would only trivialize the experience. <br /> <br /> This ruin was totally off the beaten path; I only found it because I was guided by the local RC vicar---who led my thru some pig styes and cow pastures. I've heard that the remaining stones, appointments, and artifacts have since been towed off and auctioned.<br /><br /> As for a pilgrimage, two things I might want to bring up:<br /><br />(1) don't expect to find many familiy names still extant; so many patrilineal names died out, as did the Jernyghams in the early twentieth century. These clans often suffered from limiting their gene pool --- the local vicar also opined on their attitude --- too noble to marry commoners/too Catholic to marry heretics/ and too English to marry foriegners --- .....thus the demise of many of the ancient names.<br /><br /> (2) Don't expect some Chaucerian romp..... And no, you wont see the brain stains on the altar steps, a la Beckett; the Tudor and Stuart agents assured that no such sacred memorabilia remained. What you will find are the historic records, from both Catholic and Protestant perspective, and they are harrowing enough. <br /><br /> You could find priest-hides. When you do, kneel at the spot and pray to the most heroic martyr of that whole milieu, namely Saint Nicholas Owen, the man who constructed those hiding places. Please pray for me, pray for Britain, and for the whole world.<br /><br />OUR LADY OF WALSINGHAM, PRAY FOR US.tubbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07272003035464034763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-30709415497675457172009-11-19T12:49:10.739-05:002009-11-19T12:49:10.739-05:00Yes, that would be lovely!Yes, that would be lovely!elena maria vidalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17129629173535139807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-67193365407064887862009-11-19T12:43:26.806-05:002009-11-19T12:43:26.806-05:00Me, three! And what a delightful tour it would be ...Me, three! And what a delightful tour it would be if all three of us ladies could journey together!Christinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05205862627682998184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-86129794025389023642009-11-19T10:23:09.759-05:002009-11-19T10:23:09.759-05:00Me, too. What a great pilgrimage that would be!Me, too. What a great pilgrimage that would be!elena maria vidalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17129629173535139807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-47099686724982659472009-11-19T10:14:23.415-05:002009-11-19T10:14:23.415-05:00These relics are really remarkable. I would so lov...These relics are really remarkable. I would so love to return to England for a "recusancy" tour--Tyburn convent, country homes with priest holes, and now Stoneyhurst!Stephanie A. Mannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14796489639420491857noreply@blogger.com