tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post4912837534342689671..comments2024-03-16T13:30:40.704-04:00Comments on Tea at Trianon: Sissi: Fateful Years of an Empress (1957)elena maria vidalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17129629173535139807noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-27615493872218319912017-10-18T22:14:43.893-04:002017-10-18T22:14:43.893-04:00The Sissi films have been blamed for propagating t...The Sissi films have been blamed for propagating the romantic fairy tale view of Franz Joseph and Elisabeth's troubled marriage, although they themselves did as much to propagate the myth about themselves as did any filmmaker. All one has to do is look at the portraits of Elisabeth with her hair tumbling down, or the popular prints showing the royal couple riding together or walking arm-in arm or sitting surrounded by their children, to guess that they wanted the dream to be true as much as anyone else did.elena maria vidalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17129629173535139807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-69457781905644155492015-04-18T18:03:35.164-04:002015-04-18T18:03:35.164-04:00I think they were a normal family, with normal pro...I think they were a normal family, with normal problems.Italiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03927199626961964792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-14190025625018506342014-10-13T22:10:48.525-04:002014-10-13T22:10:48.525-04:00She was only a terrible mother because she didn...She was only a terrible mother because she didn't have any experience with her own children. She didn't know them, because she unwillingly wasn't a part of their growth. How could have Sissi's mother-in-law expect her to grow up without having to face the joy and burden of raising her own children? Sissi's mother raised her, plus 7 other children (is it 7?); I'd think Sissi knew the basics. And Sophie's reasons were that Sissi was a silly mother; what influence, whether positive or not, have on a baby? She could have at least let Sissi breastfeed, hold, etc, her children. Kristihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10848434113362560579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-37222248247886157842011-02-13T17:00:26.908-05:002011-02-13T17:00:26.908-05:00I saw it! I'm linking to it! I personally LOVE...I saw it! I'm linking to it! I personally LOVE the Wittelsbachs, and have ever since my trips to Bavaria and Austria.elena maria vidalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17129629173535139807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-8001366108982893592011-02-13T16:50:25.377-05:002011-02-13T16:50:25.377-05:00Thank you:)
I worked some of these ideas into a ...Thank you:) <br /><br />I worked some of these ideas into a little article, and got some interesting comments back: <br /><br /><br />http://crossoflaeken.blogspot.com/2011/02/defending-wittelsbachs.htmlMayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18230268418171628594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-24570899222015397102011-02-12T11:32:15.156-05:002011-02-12T11:32:15.156-05:00It is good to hear your thoughts on these matters....It is good to hear your thoughts on these matters.elena maria vidalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17129629173535139807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-20920576263744599362011-02-11T22:04:48.580-05:002011-02-11T22:04:48.580-05:00Sorry, I got rather passionate! This has been a bi...Sorry, I got rather passionate! This has been a bit of a touchy topic for me for some time;-)<br /><br />I remember Marie-José of Belgium, Sisi's great-niece, said that whenever she or her mother did something unconventional, people would go: "Ah, those Wittelsbachs, they're all crazy..." She was quite irritated by it. She also put the blame for the mental problems of Ludwig II and Otto I on their mother, Marie of Prussia, rather than on the Bavarian side of the family. This might sound just like a way of defending her own family, but I'm not sure it was, as Marie-José was perfectly capable of criticizing her great-aunt Sisi's behavior and was also quite impatient with the romantic cult of the empress's memory. Once, Marie-José was at a dinner with some historians, and one of them kept sentimentally repeating: "Sissie...oh Sissie..." , in overly sweetened tones. When he finally started rhapsodizing on Sisi's eyes, Marie-José could bear no more. "Excuse me," she asked, ironically, pretending not to know that the man was younger than herself, "did you perhaps know the Empress?" The poor fellow blushed scarlet and fell silent.Mayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18230268418171628594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-72266916486914577522011-02-11T21:25:26.028-05:002011-02-11T21:25:26.028-05:00Great points! Thank you, Matterhorn!Great points! Thank you, Matterhorn!elena maria vidalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06821312108528134571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-76601020670059462712011-02-11T21:20:43.379-05:002011-02-11T21:20:43.379-05:00There was definitely a fragility in the mental mak...There was definitely a fragility in the mental makeup of the Wittelsbachs, but still, I wonder if they are sometimes viewed too stereotypically. There were Wittelsbachs and Wittelsbachs. For instance, Sisi's brother, Duke Karl Theodor, although unconventional, seems to have been much more well-adjusted than his sister; he did alot of constructive work in medicine and his own family, with Maria Josepha of Portugal, seems to have been much warmer and more united than the family of Franz Josef and Sisi. Then there was the other sister, Maria Sofia, the last queen of Naples, who was such a fighter, and surely had much more of a grip on the role of consort than did poor Elisabeth (although, who knows, maybe some desperate warfare in defense of a falling kingdom would have been good for Sisi, to galvanize her). I also think of Sophie Charlotte, who married the Duc d'Alençon and died heroically in the fire at the charity bazaar in Paris- insisting that the younger women be saved first. She was an admirable character! And, last but not least, Sisi's niece and namesake, Queen Elisabeth of the Belgians, who served her country through two world wars and many emotional shocks. So, yes, there were weaknesses in the family, but also strengths.<br /><br />I don't mean to criticize anyone here, I enjoyed reading all the previous comments, but I just wanted to say- I think there are sides to this family that are sometimes overlooked too easily.Mayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18230268418171628594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-76203570927558661862011-02-04T18:50:21.304-05:002011-02-04T18:50:21.304-05:00parts of the film are on youtube, alas without sub...parts of the film are on youtube, alas without subtitles.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ-hwQtarqA" rel="nofollow">LINK</a>Nancy Reyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14910134058143426327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-30162765309667883452011-02-04T15:23:22.822-05:002011-02-04T15:23:22.822-05:00Perhaps it is because of their brokenness that so ...Perhaps it is because of their brokenness that so many people are drawn by Sisi and Ludwig. There is a difference between lionizing someone and admiring what was good about them in spite of the wreckage surrounding them. Many people see a little of themselves in those off-center lives.elena maria vidalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17129629173535139807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-60277926114536277652011-02-04T14:42:36.723-05:002011-02-04T14:42:36.723-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Leslie Carrollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09024567064317102889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-51197510145889474902011-02-02T09:21:42.538-05:002011-02-02T09:21:42.538-05:00Thank you, Leonard! I appreciate it!!Thank you, Leonard! I appreciate it!!elena maria vidalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17129629173535139807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-84914622233744768302011-02-02T02:11:52.779-05:002011-02-02T02:11:52.779-05:00Hello,
As always thank you.
I hope you don't m...Hello,<br />As always thank you.<br />I hope you don't mind but I nominated Tea@Trianon for the Stylish Blogger Award, if you check my site you will see the details. If it is too tedious I understand perfectly; i love your site and wanted to spread the joy!<br />LG@babylonbaroqueLeonard Grecohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05715932904128964069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-56826903464046118952011-02-01T09:18:45.624-05:002011-02-01T09:18:45.624-05:00No, I have not but I will look for it!No, I have not but I will look for it!elena maria vidalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17129629173535139807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-85019533332190485602011-02-01T09:11:09.449-05:002011-02-01T09:11:09.449-05:00Thank you very much for your review of the three f...Thank you very much for your review of the three films.<br /><br />Have you seen the Italo-Austrian miniserie "Sisi" directed by Xaver Schwarzenberger? I have not yet, but they said it is better.Walter E. Kurtzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18116416424028813601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-60587465308952846232011-01-31T19:57:52.523-05:002011-01-31T19:57:52.523-05:00Sadly, Elisabeth was not very nice to her own daug...Sadly, Elisabeth was not very nice to her own daughter-in-law, Stephanie of Belgium, who also came very young and unprepared to the imperial court. One would think that knowing the pain a difficult mother-in-law can cause would have inspired her to be kinder in this regard.Mayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18230268418171628594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7534539169157708222.post-90811703414792858882011-01-31T10:00:04.110-05:002011-01-31T10:00:04.110-05:00Relating the true events in the personal lives of ...Relating the true events in the personal lives of the two monarchs, such as the death of their child, would have helped viewers of this film understand the angst suffered by Sissi and how it brought about her resulting troubling behavior.Julygirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08113475639726723076noreply@blogger.com